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The Sales Solution – Where is your next big jump coming from?

Hunter Dean - Monday, March 08, 2010

As most of you know there are 100's of different team performance "Sales" solutions out there in the market at present. Do any of them actually work and or can they make a quick difference in your team’s performance?

I was speaking with someone the other day about their business and they were telling me how they have "Coded" every single sales behaviour possible, and so they can now go into a business and sit within a specific sales environment and "Know" what’s missing or is needed within that team.

A great idea, I guess although whether you use this kind of process, or a more major global sales strategy and trust me I've seen most of them. It never ever seems to get as good a result as if you were to figure out exactly what your best ever internal people do, and consider how this matches to the biggest and best sales programs then build these attributes into your program!

You see over the past 10 years I have attended read or worked with clients who paid a fortune to get results from structured sales programs that have not made the difference they had hoped for, or thought they would have.

You may have experienced this yourself with programs like Solution Selling, SPIN selling, Cowan Brown, Exceed or one of many others. They all have incredible value, but ONLY if they can be tailored to fit and work in the specific context with which you find yourself. E.g. if you are in Financial Services and Retail banking you will need to use this process in quiet a different way to if you were in Life or General Insurance.

If you are in manufacturing and selling to wholesalers or in Telecommunications and you try to teach your teams to sell like people in another sector you may be in for a shock. So often clients have told me, we spent $XXX,XXX on this particular program and only achieved a 15-20% increase accross 5% of a population.

Damn I say feeling sorry for them, well rather than throwing the investment away, in some cases it may have actually worked extraordinarily well in the 5%, so lets code that and replicate it.

We have also rolled out many of our own solutions and seen exactly what works and does not work best. One of the biggest lessons we had in the early days was where you have a sales head, that refuses to change his or her own coaching and mentoring style.

One organisation we had where we knew exactly what was needed but could not get through to the person at the top of the sales team who never changed a thing and therefore results only occurred in segments where the other managers did not like him anyway. Hmmm - What was the lesson, make sure you have your most senior managers on board first! Understand who your talent is and how you need to manage them. Your ability to talent manage will in almost all cases significantly influence your results.

Succession planning with top performers

Hunter Dean - Monday, February 22, 2010

There are almost certainly some people in your business who if you were to loose them you are just not going to cry about it. There will however be others who are the life blood of your business perhaps in Sales or Executive roles and when they go, it will be a big problem!

In many businesses, executive succession planning for high performers and talent management is done through a process like making sure we have where possible, at least one off site a ¼ then having drinks with those people you’re a little worried about, to find out what the true story is around their ambitions

The problem with this kind of process and it may not look exactly like this, as it might be a six monthly thing, or you might get one of your team a person you know really well to find out things for you.

Consider four ways of ensuring you know exactly where people are up to on your team, so you don't get nasty surprises.

  1. Setup agreements with your people so that you’ll let them know if you were ever going to make a move somewhere else with some decent notice and be specific. Ensure in this moment that they also commit to letting you know if they were getting itchy feet or wanted new opportunities, and make sure they commit to giving you the same notice period.
  2. When new people start after 4-12 weeks consider having an up front “Performance Management” style type meeting, this is not to tell them they need to pull their socks up, but more to set the scene for the future, and yes you might even address some tiny niggles early.
  3. Keep the dialogue open between all your team members and understand where your market is at. Are there many opportunities and head hunters calling daily in order to try and snap up your best people. Or is the market really quiet in your neck of the woods.
  4. Find out what your best people value most and make sure you are delivering them what they value. In Sales environments part of this might be about money, but ironically often it may be more about recognition, and often people miss this, until it’s too late.
Have a look at what Jack Welch from GE says about the treatment of people, and just have a think about whether

1) You Agree
2) If you do, is your business treating its people like this? If you don't, do you have a process that's really working?


If you are in a business where you often have your people leaving and whether they are good or bad start to look more carefully at what you are and are not doing to mentor your people. The true cost of most team member losses is hidden in many monthly financial reports, why is this?

Well in the past financial reporting has not been smart enough and even today is not able to track the “True cost” of losing a person. Below are some things to consider, the numbers are rough but start to have a think, if you are losing people its probably costing you far more than you imagined! Below the salary is only $70K and being conservative true costs might look like.

If we were to track the true cost to the business of people leaving you would need to consider things like:

Person Leaving Average Salary $70K = $6K per month

  • Recruitment Costs                                                                                                          Cost $8K
  • The time it took to get them to full competency (4 months)                                     Cost $24K
  • Time other people “Internal Trainers” spent to get them confident                       Cost $15K
  • The time peers in the business spent with them (2 months)                                Cost $12K
  • All the Managers time $120K Salary spent (2 weeks across a year)                   Cost $5K
  • Loss of productivity from down time while you the role filled                                  Cost $10K
  • HR Team member costs                                                                                               Cost $10K

Total Cost $84K

Now that’s only on the outgoing person who may have only stayed 12 month’s to two years, you will now need to incur all these same costs on retraining the new recruit and if you get it wrong again …

Making Organisational Development – Learning & Development Programs Work

Hunter Dean - Monday, December 28, 2009

Over the years you hear again and again that we are bringing in this major consulting firm, this one or this one. Most often millions of dollars are spent with the result being that at times little if any change occurs in team results or on the front line. Why is that?

Consider some of the following reasons and then some things to do to switch it around in order to get results.

Things to be careful of:

      • Bringing in a boxed solution or template not properly tailored from outside can be very risky. What "the best” safety managers, sales people, administration staff or contact centre TLs do can be very different from what you need. Ignoring the “Local Context” seems to cost organisations a fortune over and over.
      • Avoid having a project led by an an area of the business that will not actually be using it or be fully accountable for the results that the project will or won’t get. E.g. HR make the decision with the business unit heads to go ahead with the specific solution, but the people “In” the business unit are only consulted in a token manner.
      • It is counterproductive to roll out “Great” personal change/new communication/new performance techniques to managers of business units without ensuring that they are accountable for then passing this on and/or teaching it to their reports. At times, managers go on courses, go to conferences, get great MBA learning themselves from other participants or students and there is never any accountability for them bringing this information back into their own business.

        Try Instead:

        1)     Understanding the metrics that you are trying to change at the front line.

        Is it staff turnover? Greater productivity? Better performance management mechanisms? Then for every step of the way, ask the question "Will using this intervention move those metrics?" If not, then it's probably the wrong one. E.g. teaching managers to better manage their own state of mind might be a great thing if it helps them be more focused, more present, more attentive in meetings and to manage their performance more effectively. But if this is not stated in the “Outcome,” then chances are this is less likely to occur.

         

        2)     Gain a true understanding of what is and is not working inside the business.

        Don’t just listen to the managers. Go and ask the people at the very lowest level of the business what they think is wrong. At times, senior managers go out to market and buy things to roll out to their people when inf act they are far off the mark.

         

        3)     Ensure that people from all levels of the business can contribute to the program.

        The more people who have access to interventions, the better the results. One of my clients had people going from very poor performance to very high performance fast once they knew what they weren’t doing right.

        Getting results from Organisational Development and Learning and Development Programs is like any systemic change. Consider how  the system currently works and why. What kinds of things are going to help specific metrics? If you can't link the key pieces of the intervention back to the metrics, then you may have the wrong pieces and/or provider!

        In this short video, IBM looks at some change project statitistics and suggests based on research from at least 1500 companies that the toughest areas to change are people's attitudes, mindsets and "The Culture".



        They recommend a focus into four key areas to make things work:

        1. Real Insights & Actions
        2. Solid Methods
        3. Better Skills
        4. Right Investment – Time/Resources

        Good luck!

        Why the way we interpret time really matters in obtaining business results

        Hunter Dean - Tuesday, December 01, 2009

        I have friends you can’t meet for morning tea for 8 weeks because they are booked out. Others, you can consistently book a catch-up with so long as you give them 7 days notice and that’s that, every time. Then there are people who will be available tomorrow at 3pm or Friday at 9am and any further out than that and you can forget it!

        TIME – Why is that the case?

        Is it true that the person booked up for 8 weeks is more important, successful or has more happening in their lives than those you could get an appointment with tomorrow?

        INTERESTINGLY IN OUR EXPERIENCE, NO!

        Funnily enough, some of the leaders of the biggest organisations in the country operate very much in the now. If it weren't for some very smart assistants, things would look very different. How might this information influence you and your team’s ability to get results?

        Is everybody different around time? What kinds of people are similar and why? We will deal with only one part of this major body of work that up until now been badly under-researched.

        How do I know? Well, all the time I see organisations facing people issues where certain portions of populations are extremely reactive and others are the opposite, far too slow to react. Where do you sit? How about your best people when you are "Managing Your Talent"? Are they reactive or more strategic? What's needed more in your environment?

        “Your interpretation of time is not a right or a wrong one. However, if you are too extreme either way with regard to your specific work context and what’s required, you can really lose out.”

        What should you do to ensure your thinking around time fits with your business role? Here are three suggestions to consider with regard to the people in your workplace.

        1)     In a fast-paced sales or back office production environment, you probably want to be able to move quickly and hence timeframes are almost certain to be shorter.

        2)     In a strategic planning or IT implementation environment, it might pay to have a medium-term time perspective. However, watch out! Get this to be more a long-term perspective and that $500 million dollar IT rollout can easily blow into costing twice as much.

        3)     In Strategy & Planning roles in major organisations, the people involved are better to have a really good understanding of time in the long term. But they still need to be able to partner with the people on the floor conducting the rollout.

        So what if you’ve got people in completely the wrong place?

        What if you have people (even managers) on the floor who think learning a set of specific behaviours will take 3 months when your best manager considers it can easily be learnt in 24 hours? A problem in many IT, HR and L&D departments is that when major rollouts occur, the third parties always talk about giving things some time... until the budget's blown and the business is locked into making even tougher decisions!

        Authoritarian or Collaborative Approaches to Change

        Hunter Dean - Monday, August 03, 2009

        So we have a Restructure how do we make it work?

        Its 2009 and most major organisations in the Asia Pacific region are currently going through some form of restructure. So what’s best who should we listen to, why and when? Some organisations get it right, that is the performance of their teams usually reduced in size increases significantly. Organisational change, performance interventions and restructures need to be done well so you keep your best and let go of those who want to be elsewhere.

        Others get it wrong, often those who think they know what’s needed either intuitively or after what they consider to be significant research, but who ignore the troops and what’s working best inside, often they go with the "latest and greatest" fad or style for the time.

        Why does it really matter? Well this entry will argue that you better get it right if you're to be remembered by your people and your board if you are the one making the decisions. So what different ways of doing things are there and how do you decide so that your "Troops" head in the same direction you intended and performance leaps by 25-40% not 5-10%!


        1) School Room Style - We Make the Decisions - You Do What You're Told - Authoritarian Approach

        Use a style that’s become popular in some organisations of late, you decide on what’s best behind closed doors what will in your personal opinion and that of those around you work, so long as the teams get into gear and pull their "fingers" out.

        Like when we were at school and were told look you are welcome to do it how you like, so long as you follow these guidelines. But the guidelines were pretty stringent, ironically killing much of the innovation and often the people who may have been genius’s complete their work then don’t offer to help anyone else because they may be worried if they do they may get it wrong when teaching then be in trouble themselves.

        So what can happen is little or no change. People end up in an environment of fear uncertainty and protecting their own turfs. Results well you don’t have to be Einstein to understand that when people are scared they are not operating at their best. In fact results drop off and senior leaders use any excuse they can think of, to justify the lack of results.

        2) The Collaborative Approach - Old Style Consult the Masses - Trust the People

        Another approach taken is the trust the masses approach, where you run a little blind. You know that change is needed but are not 100% sure of the solution. You decide to listen to what your people tell you they think they need. Great in theory but often the blind spots in the team may stay blind. For example if some of your people are scared of approaching major new clients and starting new deals from scratch, they may be unlikely to promote this as the next big area of focus.

        Major benefits though come from understanding where your teams feel like they are excelling and where they feel they are falling down. If you have a great relationship with your team and know all the numbers coming out of the system around productivity and or sales dollars, then you can link these across to key behaviours that become of great value to significant and fast business changes.

        3) A Combination Process - Knowing Some of the Answers – Consulting on Others

        This approach is one that is seldom well used and when it is often swings to far toward 1 or 2 above. Imagine as a leader actually pulling your head in for one minute and acknowledging you don’t have "All the answers" and understanding that your job is actually to find them out.

        By mapping what you consider might work, then consulting the masses you can actually create an environment where people really buy into the process. The problem often is we have the answers first then rush in and implement before we have really consulted. Or we tell the people we have taken on their feedback, when we have not, or have listened to 10% of the feedback from the people but implemented only 5%.

        The we change the business structure and 12 weeks later it’s a mess, the people are unhappy and no one is any better off. Everyone starts to blame each other and the only way to fix it is for those that made the decisions to get out there and put a rocket up the regional managers ...

        Ironically this fixes nothing, people end up leaving due to underperformance all caused by a lack of true consultation. So if you’re down that path or can feel yourself heading in that direction what can you do? Call in a major consulting firm like McKinsey, Bain and Co. or Accenture etc, well its one solution, and have them build a roadmap out of where you now find yourself. Guaranteeing you'll have access to some global smarts in the process is a great way to rest easy until they’ve gone, but then its back to you.

        Conclusion

        How about thinking first, mapping a solution based on your best internal people, (do you have a talent identification & management process?) reading and speaking with other external people who are cutting edge in your industry. Contacting heads of similar businesses in different countries to build relationships with people who don’t compete in your market where you can share different ideas and research. Build these into your solution, get rid of senior team members who don't consult or who are not good at building internal relationships with the people at lower levels who actually do the work.

        Change your team so that you respect your people from the bottom up not just the top down, start getting granular, don’t accept excuses from senior team members like oh its not my job to know that process, it is there job to get results. Benchmark everything you do so any significant decisions results are plain and simple to understand. If someone rolled out a new process, performance program or new system that did not work what were the real costs and why, what can we learn from those? How many people have we lost due to poor leadership and why were those the leaders we choose in the first place? Then involve your best people in everything you do, ensure their input becomes “How do you run your business”. Stop trying to pretend you “Know all the answers” you don’t. Only through true consultation and understanding of everything your people are selling, processing and facing daily then leveraging this are you going to get that answers that will give you real results.

        Good Luck – You Can Do This!






        Performance Management – Use it or loose your team!

        Hunter Dean - Thursday, July 09, 2009

        Performance Management – Why Get Good At It?

        Over the past 10 yeas I’ve experienced many organisations where senior executives shy away from having the “Crucial Conversations”, the reasons are often similar.

        “Look I don’t think you really need to “Fire” people, or its not really in our culture, we don’t feel its necessary to force people to change etc”

        This entry is about why the better you are at Performance Management the better you’ll be at anything your business throws at you at all, in fact the better you’ll ironically be in your relationships outside the business also. At the end of the day if something in a business or any other relationship is not working if all parties concerned are not wanting to change or pretend they are when they’re not then stop wasting your time. When you consider implementing processes around talent identification and talent management seriously consider how good your best people are around the following areas.

        Three Keys to Strong Performance Management

        1) Consider a proper format

        In some organisations development plans are a waste of breath and hence when someone falls down there is little if anything to benchmark it against other than their peers actual business metrics. This often though may not stack up though, as people often have excuses like, I deal with different clients, products or systems and hence its different for me.

        In order for your personal performance development plans to actually be of use, keep them simple make sure you look at things like what are the top three key things to focus on?

        • Why are you falling down on them right now?
        • What knowledge resources or skills do you need to change this by Friday?
        • Are you prepared to make those changes?
        • Can you make them?

        Either people can or cant do whats required in a Performance Management setting, lets be honest actually there is little in between. The problem most leaders have is a lack of courage to ask specific enough questions to ensure a proper answer and therefore result from the team member.

        2) Ensure its self perpetuating

        There is no point spending a whole lot of time working with a person then leaving them to work on themselves around an area only to find that later they go away and on Friday when you check they have done nothing. Performance Management work must be self perpetuating in the eyes of the person receiving the “Coaching” otherwise its nothing more than the kind of serious telling off your parents used to give you years ago at home.

        In order to make Performance Management systems self perpetuating consider starting to get better at your own ability to communicate with people over tough things. Look at some managers who are naturally angry people, meet their children you’ll find anger. Then look at how they performance manage and you’ll see it was easy for them, they just had the meeting spoke very loudly and intensely, to the person until they gave in and agreed to everything asked of them. Then they went off and the employee went off to do his/her own thing.

        “Problem is they then don’t, and nothing changes”

        Many managers in fact believe that people “Cant” change which makes performance management a little tougher. Look at how good you are at your own tougher communication skills, how good are you at telling your best work mate they have screwed up so badly they have almost lost their job?

        3) Understand the things that matter

        In many cases managers are trying to council a staff member on something they themselves have no idea about.

        For example selling 20% more of a product line in an area where the demographic is such that it cant be done. So they coach and coach then find unfortunately that it would have been much better to ask more questions up front, in which case they would have learned more about the problems being faced. The solution may actually be to sell a different product which can often then result in more revenue than that earned prior anyway.

        Make sure you get skilled in the use of tough conversations don’t blame your team members, you are the one that needs to be able to coach them, if they are not performing then perhaps you are the one that needs to have a serious look in the mirror first, not them!


        Expert Knowledge Management

        Hunter Dean - Sunday, May 03, 2009

        What is Expert Knowledge Management EKM?

        As part of a personal aim to see the performance of any business team continue to increase in different business verticals. I’ve decided to contribute to the area of Expert Knowledge Management EKM.

        What does that mean, well given my expertise is not in English, it means this blog will be exploring everything to do with getting more out of its best people in major organisations. That includes areas where I have been working for the past 10+ years around talent identification & management, the value of internal collaboration on team performance in both sales & productivity/output based environments, performance management. It also includes areas like how to get value from the use of past cultural transformation, sales & L&D programs that may have worked in small pockets of the business .

        A clear distinction to make up front is that this does not mean that the team have to work harder, probably teams do however need to start thinking differently and with more focus on collaboration, performance, strategy, innovation and what it is their best people internally are doing already.

        Expert Knowledge Management EKM is a subject few organizations even understand let alone use.

        A major part of this blog will be about exploring what the world’s best organizations are doing in this area to ensure that when the markets are falling faster than ever and the “World” is in trouble you have solutions in order to replicate what is best practice not from another country but in many cases within your own organisation.

        We will also be looking at how interventions occur in the worlds largest organisations around Human Resources, Talent Identification, Performance Management, Human Performance, Change Management and other related areas.

        If you have other questions on these topics that are not answered here, a good research resource can be found at www.behaviourchange.com.au/White-Papers.html

        All comments are appreciated and welcomed!


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